@purism @Coneng If you understood the amount of software work that went into making this and the Pinephone possible, you would not think they are overpriced. Using the Pinephone as the basis for what is possible is misleading, and doesn't help the overall goal of breaking free of the duopoly.

@booster @purism how much of that software was open source community contribution? Still its overpriced. Even the laptops are overpriced. A price they probably feel entitled for the "social purpose company" slogan. For the Duopoly they can use Sailfish OS which is ready to use.

@purism @Coneng I'm not going to argue with you, because it isn't my job to educate you, but just look at the mobile userspace for linux phones before Purism started development on the Librem 5. Notice how there wasn't a user space that didn't revolve around an android kernel. Sure there are a few one off OSes out there, but none have mass support or adoption. Meantime, what Purism has enabled is a full desktop Linux OS on a phone. The same Linux you use on a desktop. If you can't see why that is significant and a massive development undertaking, well then this conversation will just never be productive.

@purism @Coneng Furthermore, just because something is open source, doesn't mean development costs on using it are free. That is a wild misunderstanding. Do you work for free? I imagine you wouldn't flip a burger for free, let alone develop on complex systems that require a lot of effort and time.

@booster @purism I said open source community. I do dedicate time to contribute/volunteer for free. Good for you if volunteer and get money out of it. Please compare #PinePhone to #Librem5 in price/specs then educate yourself. When you started saying "you", you lost my attention so this is the last of it.

@Coneng @purism

There are a couple serious reasons why #Librem5 is much more expensive than #Pinephone:

1. @purism intentionally choose #hardware manufacturers supporting #FOSS to change the industry:
https://puri.sm/posts/breaking-ground/. Librem 5 is a custom design.

2. @purism pay to a team professional developers to work on #phosh free software mobile interface, which is installed on most Pinephones:
https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#310-why-did-purism-decide-to-create-the-new-phosh-interface. Purism upstream everything.

More details: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#17-why-does-the-librem-5-cost-so-much-compared-to-the-pinephone