@Wolf480pl@niu.moe @xj9 oh I guarantee it. Keynesians think that they are capitalists, but their philosophy is so anticapitalists that it gets kind of weird at times. Marxists actually tend to.have a similar definition with other caveats that an Austrian wouldn't have. Marxists are generally believers in capitalism but they take a moral stance on things and try to change it with force. By Marxists, I mean strict followers of Marx's actual philosophy.