@rakor that Proton issue is false and is bs.
@pkimpton that's what I mean ... I don't know what can be trusted when reading all those reviews
@rakor personally I'd go by the actual source such as Proton. Because just like movies critics and reviewers aren't going to be 100% factual. They'll be biased. But also the companies too can be that way. Personally I've never had an issue with ExpressVPN. And haven't any issues trying out ProtonVPN. I hit torrents quite a bit. Never had an issue using a VPN, etc.
@pkimpton well I think I'll give PIA a try. Do have have any concerns about PIA?
@rakor Private Internet. They seem pretty decent. Haven't used them before but looking through the info, etc seems pretty solid.
@pkimpton well I was also thinking about proton but then I found this article https://steigerlegal.ch/2019/05/23/protonmail-real-time-surveillance/
Now I found MullvadVPN which also sounds good first... I am not sure if I need a VPN at all... You just shift from "trust your ISP" to "trust the VPN-provider".
Is it really more secure?!
Why don't you want the librem.one tunnel?