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disgusting, signal should be boycotted. I do not understand why people use it,.
@selea @abloo I hate the walled-garden nature of Signal, but it's the only FOSS e2ee program I could convince a subset of my IRL friends to use. And that wasn't easy.
You have to understand that many people have never heard of "open source", don't know what an operating system is, and don't know the difference between a URL and a Google Search. If you use Firefox in front of them, they'll wonder why your Chrome has a different icon than theirs. What can you convince those people to use?
You have to understand that many people have never heard of "open source", don't know what an operating system is, and don't know the difference between a URL and a Google Search. If you use Firefox in front of them, they'll wonder why your Chrome has a different icon than theirs. What can you convince those people to use?
@selea @abloo In order to persuade them to use an alternative IM platform, you first must explain to them that there exists an IM app that isn't called WhatsApp, and it can't message their contacts in WhatsApp. Then you have to spend 20 minutes explaining *why* it can't message their contacts in WhatsApp even though they're right there in WhatsApp. Then you have to convince them that it's a good idea to use an app that's "broken" because it can't message their friends.
How the hell do you get them to use XMPP+OMEMO/Matrix? It's already next to impossible to get them on Signal, where they just install it and I show up on the main screen with 0 setup.
How the hell do you get them to use XMPP+OMEMO/Matrix? It's already next to impossible to get them on Signal, where they just install it and I show up on the main screen with 0 setup.
@mcsinyx @matrix Element is not plug-and-play because they have to create an account, come up with a password, find people's Matrix IDs, close dialog boxes asking them to "back up their keys", need to understand the difference between public rooms and private chats, deal with "room upgrades", etc.
Explaining all that to them is a big task when it was hard enough to explain to them that there exists an app that can send messages even though its icon looks different from WhatsApp.
Explaining all that to them is a big task when it was hard enough to explain to them that there exists an app that can send messages even though its icon looks different from WhatsApp.
I'd argue that all services would require an account buy I see your other points, @Seirdy. Indeed the key-per-device thing really degrades the UX, sometimes I wish it can be as easy to manage keys as PGP.
