@DrRyanSkelton its funny too because it basically looks the same except with some color + alignment

@theorytoe @DrRyanSkelton
And without the ugly serifed fonts — the most important part to me TBH
In any case, I think we should start the movement and abolish CSS 🤪

@m0xee @DrRyanSkelton i mean I think there are some parts of css that are excessive, but I think overall its pretty decent

and I DO like my serif font THANK YOU work sans is AMAZING
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@theorytoe
CSS is great to slap over an already existing design and shape it more to your liking. It was originally a tool for that: interchangeable styles. You weren't supposed to do the whole site layout in it. What we have today is due to people using it wrong.
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@theorytoe
> work sans
But that's a sans serif font! Serifs are those decorative… spike thingies on letters — fonts that have them are serif fonts: ugly, bleh 🤮, don't like them. Those that don't have them are SANS serif — really neat, my love ❤️
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@m0xee @DrRyanSkelton sure but really the fallback just sucks

a decently made serif font can look gorgeous

@theorytoe @DrRyanSkelton
Agreed! But using Times New Roman should still be criminally punishable — it kills our children and destroys ecosystems. It was discovered in the underground labs in Sibera and has been used to oppress the freedom-loving people all around the globe ever since! How long are we going to tolerate this, we have to stand up and fight 😡

@m0xee @DrRyanSkelton
I mean its alright on screens
I will say it looks better on print than computer though
@m0xee @theorytoe @DrRyanSkelton My understanding is that serrif fonts are supposed to be better on paper while sans serrif is better for a screen. Couldn't say why though
@nierenstein @DrRyanSkelton @m0xee
it really depends on the person
traditionally in typography sans-serif was used for more special pieces of text and serif was used for everything else (for most typical print media)

though it depends on the typesetter, author, and publisher highly too as there may be some thematic preference that say a publish might want to maintain. other times a sans-serif looks nicer than a serif

as far as readability goes, neither really matters in reality. (though comic sans is the most readable font you cant change my mind)

@nierenstein
There used to be an explanation for this based on the fact that computer screens have lower resolution and that made serif fonts look ugly — I kid you not, that was the dominant theory about two decades ago. But I think that's bullshit of course — serifs appeared long before quality printing was even achievable, you kinda have to use them when you're using a chisel to carve letters in stone 🤷
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@nierenstein
Besides, computer screen resolutions have increased drastically, but sans serif fonts still dominate the UIs, modern printed manuals also use them and look really cool — doesn't give you the impression of being printed in the eighties.
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@m0xee @nierenstein @DrRyanSkelton
as far as im aware sans serif typesets have been around since the seventeenth century
Do you have any good tutorials on CSS and HTML in that style? Everything I've learned has been exactly the opposite of your way of thinking.
@rher @DrRyanSkelton @m0xee
ngl I just google up how to do x in css

and then html boils down to
<html>
<head>
... css/js includes
... meta tags
</head>
<body>
website content
</body>
</html>

youll use divs quite a bit depending on how awful your css abuse it, but most of the time, I mostly do alignment, colors, and fonts more than any of the crazy stuff
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