@hj
> TypeScript
Ha-ha-ha-ha! I had no idea we can thank MS for this one. I've never used it, but it doesn't even seem… microsoftish to me 🤪
And yeah, valid point — in the work environment you still have to deal with MS a lot, but that's work — it'd never be all about pleasure.
With personal computing you can avoid dealing with MS entirely these days, again unlike Google — their stuff is like cancer, I put a great deal of effort into avoiding it entirely and I still can't 😞

@mangeurdenuage

@m0xee @mangeurdenuage microsoft stuff is also still cancer, even though it's seemingly contained to "work environment" it still seeps outside of it and smells horribly.

TypeScript is typical (sic) microsoft experience - you write garbage code, you get confusing error messages and whole thing isn't even meant to be good in the first place all while people who have comically large skill issue say that it's better than JS and that it's a must-have.

Oh and let's not forget that Bing is still the backbone of "free" search engines like DDG.

Worst part is that people think that microsoft somehow "changed" and "is actually good now", but reality is that it's still the same, it's an invasive business bureaucracy machine that spreads its tendrils to grasp on whatever it can get a hold on, it WILL EEE your software and workflow, it might be gentle now and it seems like a friendly hug but it WILL start choking and manipulating you. It might not be in your field now but it is in its considerations. They just wait until generations pass and everyone forgets their crimes so that they can strike again when no one is expecting.

@hj @mangeurdenuage @m0xee the existence of microsoft windows and its prevalence means I have to use proton to play PC games. The only way that stops is the end of windows, and wine to run a number of programs. Also sometimes I have to use computers that aren't my own, yk a lot of workplaces use them, and that means I do actually *need* to use their shit. Windows is not optional for a huge number of people, and that is not acceptable.

@salt @hj @m0xee
> Windows is not optional for a huge number of people
Wrong, windows is optional for a huge number of people because a huge number of people don't play video games. They just browser the web, need a document editor, pdf reader, print and see pictures/videos, this is what the majority of the userbase is.

@mangeurdenuage @m0xee @salt that majority of userbase uses iOS and Android actually

@mangeurdenuage @hj @m0xee @salt >what are solidworks, teams, office 365, some shitware program you've never heard of, etc.

@PurpCat @hj @mangeurdenuage @m0xee @salt Don't forget Autodesk slop and other engineering/industrial standard software that never gets ported! (PSPICE, Altium, etc.)

@Tadano @hj @mangeurdenuage @m0xee @salt it used to like a decade ago for rhel only mostly and nobody bought it much once unix was replaced with x64 windows

@PurpCat @hj @mangeurdenuage @m0xee @salt Don't tell me they sold the Linux ports separately from the Wangblows ones
Honestly I hope MS and by extension Windows + its software suites being increasingly dogshit pushes corps to migrate to Ubuntu/RHEL, which in turn would encourage the porting of these tools. At least it would be a first good step into FOSS tools getting ubiquitously used as industrial standards.

@PurpCat @hj @m0xee @mangeurdenuage @salt in a more ideal world all the industry standard CAD stuff would be FOSS, which would require a Blender situation happening IMO.

@PurpCat @hj @m0xee @mangeurdenuage @salt Blender situation being that the relevant large users of Autodesk's modeling tools realized that a FOSS tool they all fund development of and adopt for standard use is a better than risking one corp having everyone else by the balls.

@salt @mangeurdenuage @m0xee maybe in the current state of things we might actually get a APIW for real this time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_Programming_Interface_for_Windows

@pyrate @hj @m0xee
Boomers can't understand file hierarchy

@mangeurdenuage @pyrate @m0xee boomers actually can, the problem in corporate sector usually is that it's either Microsoftshit, Amazonshit or Googleshit, because getting stuff on-prem is too much investment (in HR mostly) and too much risk and responsibility.

@hj @pyrate @m0xee