@newt @m0xee does this 1u rack thing support dma?

@eric @m0xee lol no, it's USB 3 only. Firewire-tards must cope!

@newt @m0xee
>starts several arguments about dma in an audio interface
>recommends an audio interface that doesn't support dma

@eric @m0xee he doesn't know about it yet

@newt @m0xee wdym, usb 3 has dma support you just don't know about it dumbass (trust me bro)

@eric @m0xee oh wait, it actually does lol!

@eric
But I did note that I've never used Mk3 myself, Mk2 was a Firewire card: https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/motu-828-mkii
I can only guess why they didn't use Thunderbolt for this one: Mk2 was an aging card already and Thunderbolt wasn't widely adopted yet, they decided to play it safe, I'm fairly certain if they revisit this card anytime soon they would go for it. USB did improve, but it always was and will be poor choice for audio 🤷

@newt

@m0xee @newt my scarlett solo 4 uses usb 2 and it works fine™. opinion discarded

@eric @newt
There are lots of things that "work fine", as you probably know, there are USB video adapters even — doesn't make it a great choice for this type of devices.

What are you even getting at? Should I recommend Firewire cards to someone who had never used them before? No, I shouldn't, it was good, but Apple killed it. It would be same as telling someone to overthrow government when being asked a question about wireless networks — I have my opinions, but I'm not 13 to do that.

@m0xee @newt HOLD UP. WAIT A MINUTE

@newt @m0xee wtf the bundled daw looks like bootleg ableton live

@eric @m0xee @newt what is this?

@mischievoustomato @m0xee @newt audio interface

@eric @m0xee because it is

@newt @eric
For fuck's sake, did you guys learn about Digital Performer only just now?!🤪
It's old software, it pre-dates Live by at least a decade: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Performer

@m0xee @eric imagine, some of us are actually younger than 69, old man!

@newt
You won't fool me! I know you are 69 and you have original pressing of Bites on compact cassette in your collection somewhere 😏

@eric

@newt
I'm sure, the card you posted has 8-10 outputs and 2-4 inputs on the back side too, but cabling doesn't have to be messy, it all usually goes behind the desk and if you arrange it well, it doesn't look that bad.
But yeah, MOTU cards indeed look rather utilitarian — but they are sturdy, can survive pretty harsh trips.

@m0xee naaah.. it doesn't. It's a small one.

https://www.arturia.com/products/audio/minifuse/minifuse4

It's more like MOTU M4.

@newt
Indeed!
It doesn't even have optical outs 🤔
All the cards I had, including portable ones, had plenty of outputs — I don't know why they make so many myself — they can't even be used to connect external effect boxes if there are not enough inputs to feed them back in, but they always do!

@m0xee TOSLink is hot garbage. No idea why people still use it except to connect to some ancient devices.