Random thought:
I love my 
Linux setup with runit.
It's easy, it works as I expect, I have full control
and is veeery fast.
If you are tired of #systemd, maybe give runit a try. It may not have dependencies but you can write your own run scripts which basically check for another service to be started and if not, simply exit early.
@Anachron
Can't agree more!
I have to admit, right now I'm not administering hundreds of systems — which I suspect is the primary use case where systemd might shine, but I have more than five different machines I use personally more or less daily — some configurations are pretty complex, and I still don't see the point in more than what runit in Void does — just scripts! If you need something like dependencies — make it more complex, but such cases are rare 🤷
(In reverse order stop and then in correct one Start) and that's all that I was missing.
Due to the simplicity of runit adding a status icon is one sv check away. And its very performant.
In fact its so smooth that I can run a void Linux chroot on my Android with near native speed.
I used systemd before in Arch Linux and also sometimes at work and I cant help but get lost in its complexity.
Debugging #systemd is not trivial. Its hell.
@Anachron
Everyone I know, who had the opportunity to use runit and who was willing to write their own scripts for service startup, loved runit for its simplicity — but that is the problem, not a lot of people have the opportunity, most don't want to switch the distro they might otherwise like just to try a different init system. Too much time and effort went into adopting systemd and switching away from it might require even more.
true words. Honestly, systemd is not even needed for 95% (if not even more) of the setups.
Why everybody had to adopt it is beyond my understanding.
Just look at the issue tracker:
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues
The open "regression" label is at 19. So a once working system is still broken in 19 cases.
@m0xee
I also have 4+ machines running
and I barely reach the 3rd dependency level.
I have a few simple script which check if dependencies have started before and iirc the most I have is 3.
So since each level adds 1 second delay it means all my services run within 3 seconds of startup.
But I have thousands and thousands of less lines of codes and much less processes which handle this setup.
I have written a little 100 LOC script to restart gracefully [1/2]