I have just realised that MiniDisc transfer speeds wouldn't be enough to listen to CD quality (44kHz/16bit) audio without pre-buffering :comfysob:

Even when using FLAC, MD's 1.25Mbps speed would barely be enough. My dream of re-creating the early 2000s music listening aesthetics is ruined by another imperfection.

@newt
Wat is wrong with buffering? Without it you're fucked in a lot of cases: network delays, physical media spun down on detecting vibrations to prevent damage, physical media having to be re-read due to errors, etc…
And 1.25 seems to be just right to be reading FLACs on average — studio recordings are often heavily compressed/filtered and use even lower bandwidth.

@m0xee buffering is gay and lame. Buffering is one of two main reasons why Bluetooth audio is garbage.
@mischievoustomato @m0xee no, it's not. First of all, you still get delay due to buffering. There is no way around this. You probably don't notice it when listening to music, but it's there when you watch movies. Seriously, try adding 50ms A-V delay in VLC next time you watch a movie. Much better experience!

But it all goes to shit when you do something really time-sensitive, like playing an instrument. I can't use my synth with BT audio at all, the delay is just really THAT noticeable.

@newt @mischievoustomato
Now that is a valid point indeed, I don't use wireless headphones at all, but I suspect it to be pretty much unusable.
I just don't see why you attempt to apply the same principle to audio *consumption*, I didn't even get it at first — what you were talking about and why buffering might be bad.

@newt @mischievoustomato
Making music and video games are relatively niche use cases compared to what most people use wireless audio peripherals for. In both of these cases wired would probably always be better. No need to apply some kind of universal solution for everything: you know me — I *despise* USB audio, but if it's a tiny machine hooked up to my amp that I can listen my digital collection on and that I can control remotely — why would I care?

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@amerika
I've only had proper turntable for a pretty short period of time and I've given all the vinyl records I had to my friends so it's probably too late to start collecting them again.
I do love CDs though! But since shipping and handling started costing more than the CDs themselves (and now it became at all impossible), I stopped buying them.
@mischievoustomato @newt

@amerika
Yesterday I was flabbergasted by the difference when I put a CD on after not listening to them for a few days: the stage feels wider and I can clearly hear different sounds in different stereo channels. But it probably had more to do with it being an early King Crimson record, not with audio source per se — but nothing wrong with that either, it was an HDCD remaster — I liked the format, too bad it died too fast 😩
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@m0xee @mischievoustomato @newt

King Crimson did a lot of work with production, as I recall. Some of their stuff sounded almost as good as the Led Zeppelin material. Warm and spacious.
@m0xee @mischievoustomato @newt

Of course, I get all excited for the Fripp/Eno stuff, which is sort of another level of production artistry, and pre-digital too.
@m0xee @mischievoustomato @newt

It's very painful these days. I have been favoring bulk orders where shipping goes down to a couple bucks a CD.

Of course, my only sources are for metal... but you can often find pretty good deals on Discogs, just use a disposable credit card since their credit processing is a sieve.

@amerika
I don't enjoy metal as much these days, but when it's something bordering on prog or something slower like sludge, I still appreciate it.
When my NAD CD player broke down I got a used Rotel one from a guy who was also selling some of his CD collection, including nearly complete Neurosis discography, I only had A Sun that Never Sets by them at the time and didn't like it much — for some reason it seemed rather simplistic to me.
@mischievoustomato @newt

@amerika
Later, when I was living in the country near the forest during the COVID thing, their music started growing on me immensely.
Today I regret not buying it very much — and I didn't even have to do a thing, he didn't know what to expect so when he brought the CD player, he took a few records with him to test it and I could just "You know, I'll take those too", but alas 😢
@mischievoustomato @newt

@m0xee @mischievoustomato @newt

I have many regrets about things I did not buy back in the day.

I was sort of hoping the internet would erase that by having everything online and easily accessible, but my monkey species wrecked that one fast.

It's too bad since despite most music being bad, there's a lot of great stuff out there.
@m0xee @mischievoustomato @newt

I enjoyed Neurosis and other sludge like EyeHateGod, but in the end, it did not stick with me.

The earlier hardcore albums are kind of neat. "The Word As Law" stuck in my head.

https://www.discogs.com/artist/154935-Neurosis
@m0xee @mischievoustomato @newt

I ended up missing our DC++ server.

We generally served up low-bitrate MP3s so people could try before they bought.

With metal, the point is to connect people to albums.
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