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College laptops:

Get a Thinkpad and install windows 10 (or 11 if you're willing to be ballsy) and it'll work fine
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@kirby throw the thinkpad in the trash and get one of HP or dell's business lineup
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@skylar is it more affordable than the Thinkpad, because I've been using Thinkpads for some time and being dirt cheap and reliable really makes me like them a lot
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@kirby "reliable" died ages ago, now it's cheap chinese garbage that competes with $150 walmart shitboxes but coasts off IBM's reputation
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@skylar I'd be inclined to disagree, stuff before like 2018 works just as well lol
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@kirby stuff from before 2018 is e-waste, and anything after is hot garbage
bad motherboards, bad wifi cards, bad SSDs, docks that don't work worth a damn, etc. is typical of lenovo's shit. do you want a laptop that will spend more time being shipped back to fucking china for repairs than being used? then go with lenovo.
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@skylar experienced the exact opposite with both my t470 and x220. the latter actually has a terrible wifi card, so one point to you there, but otherwise it's been perfect

but go off
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@kirby if you had a USB-C dock you could enjoy your external monitors randomly not existing, the ethernet port randomly not existing, just random scuff like that. there's no fix and replacing it with a new one doesn't help either, just reboot continuously until everything happens to be working at the same time.

all of those machines went into the e-waste
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@skylar is that a known issue with the model you had?
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I have MacBook Pro that was one of the first laptops to get a Thunderbolt port — there was no USB-C at the time, it was a different port.
And I got an Apple Thunderbolt Display with it — also one of the first to get all that, it had everything built into it: a wired network adapter, a soundcard with speaker system (it had a subwoofer even), and of course it worked as an external display.
Sometimes on waking the machine from sleep the display didn't come back on.

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You could always unplug it and plug it back in again to fix that — but it was pissing me off as you might have other things connected, like USB storage — I had a Firewire audio card plugged into it. Just disconnecting stuff like that isn't good if you have software that is using that hardware — so it was pissing me off immensely.
This problem never got fixed 😂

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