@intermobility @m0xee @bascule
Your right. We don't know the facts here. There is too many unknowns. However there are quite a lot of posts on this. Also the fact that Session is a fork of Signal. The devs involved in Session was part of signal and the project forked when sinal got their big investment. Likely from the CIA. I suspect that the Session guys did not agree with the direction. This is just speculations from my side. I stay away from Signal, but it is a better option than most.
@johndoe
I don't trust Telegram for similar reasons: I don't have direct proof, but there is an hint that would be unwise to ignore. Remember when Russia was still officially blocking Telegram? At the same time, in the later stages of it, but before they had the ban officially lifted, Rostelecom — a state-owned telco owning a cell carrier operating under Tele2 brand in Russia had a paid-for option to exclude Telegram traffic from your plan.
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@m0xee @intermobility @bascule
Yeah Telegram is not a secure messenger. It does not enforce end to end encryption. In order to use use encryption users need to use "secret chat". However this is not a good implementation as they do not really have end to end encryption. Encryption is only enforced in transit. Meaning telegram and others who are allowed access can can actually access messages.
Group cheats are not encrypted.
@feld @bascule @johndoe @intermobility@toot.community
Yes, that's the whole point: if they had a way to separate Telegram traffic, they had a way to block it too — which is what they should've done at the time as Telegram was officially banned. But they didn't — which makes the statewide bad nothing more than a PR stunt.
@johndoe
This means that either they had the IP addresses Telegram servers are using or otherwise had means of separating its traffic, meaning they could block it as well. And this is coming from the one who was taking part in the protests against Internet censorship in Russia — I wouldn't stop using Telegram without a good reason. For me this alone has the cover blown — even though I don't have papers proving it's operated by KGB or something like that 😅
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