@kravietz
> tend to drift into the smooth talk about “the need for diplomacy”, kind of ignoring what they just said about the goals
They are probably trying to sell the good old "No NATO expansion" narrative — and sadly those who still buy this bullshit do exist.
But there is more — this pipe dream of a demilitarized zone with UN peacekeepers coming from a couple of experts — that's just… Wow! I lack proper words to describe this. Where do they get their stuff? I want some of that too 🤪
@kravietz
This looks really bad though: https://infosec.exchange/@kevinrothrock/111973057313773147
It doesn't mean a thing for now, but the fatigue is building up and the belief that some compromise is at all possible is particularly concerning.
It's the same opinion you see online a lot on the Israel-Gaza conflict: "Why don't we all just live peace and stop shooting?",— nothing good ever comes out of this, it comes from those who don't have any idea for permanent solution.
@kravietz
"But it’s a rather bitter laughter, as he admit these goals make negotiations impossible"
This opinion is a surprisingly sober one IMO. Same for the one of an expert from Turkey. And the South African expert is making countries from the region seem more important for this conflict than they really are.