You kid, but https://woa-project.github.io/LumiaWOA/

@olmitch
And it actually works! I had it on my Lumia. Albeit a bit slowly — if this phone had more RAM it might be kinda useful, given that it can be dicked and used as a normal computer. Sadly, it only supports 1080 resolution on HDMI, but damn! Its just am old phone.
@charlie_root

Windows Phone was actually good, it's a fucking shame that management ruined that product. I remember visiting customers with Lumias and being blown away by the smooth and no nonsense UI. They gave up much too easily. Now they have this weird bottom feeder relationship with Google as they extend Chrome with Edge and Android with Surface. Surface, for that matter, is such a weird brand, seeing as it started out as a smart coffee table

@olmitch @charlie_root @m0xee I actually despise Microsoft surface. Company I work for uses them and they are some of the worst things I've had to use.

BUT I SAW FOOTBALL COACHES ON TV WITH THEM

They do seem to enjoy them a lot!

it seems like all the big companies go together in the past couple years and decided "fuck Dell, it's HP all the way"

@olmitch
MS has a history of doing it to their products that show potential of not being a load of horse manure, I'm surprised that they didn't kill off Xbox after only a few months 😅
And that Google shit is just horrid! Like… come on, guys, I've been buying your products precisely because I didn't want to touch anything by Google — switching to reskinned Chrome and Android is not the migration path I've been expecting 😩
@charlie_root

@charlie_root
And 12 with extra aye eye is right around the corner!

BTW I'm actually using Bloat on Windows 10 Mobile to write this reply 😂
Sure, it looks clunky, but for some reason I really like it.

@m0xee

I still like muh free software though, just wish phosh used X11 not gay ass wayland.

@charlie_root
You know I have nothing against Wayland, I'm not in any of the camps here.
And I had had high hopes for Phosh, but when I got the opportunity to use it on a real phone — I didn't like it at all, it's like it follows the same design paradigms as the green wastebucket and the fruit, but everything is… clunkier. Meh.
Weren't you on SXMO/SWMO though?

@charlie_root
That's what I'd be using — I don't care how buggy it is, at least it's worth fixing and I would be able to do it and customize my device down to the last pixel — better than wasting time relying on hacks to make Android less pain to look at. It's the absolute worst! Over a decade has passed — true, it doesn't look like a blast from the nineties, but it still has hands down the worst design I could be able to come up with in… absolutely everything! How could it become popular?

@charlie_root
I get it when it comes to cheap phones — you can get decent hardware for like $300, but "flagships"… You get something that looks like it was hacked together over a weekend for the price of iPhone 🤦
And unlike with hobbyist devices, you can't have nice things on it because hardware has to look "sleek" — no matter that software doesn't come even close, the product ends up looking like an expensive sports car someone shat in.

@charlie_root
Who buys these? Those who really want an iPhone, but can't because the don't want to be like one of them "iSheep"? 🤷

Sorry for the rant. Fuck Android! Fuck Google — fuck all of it! 😅