sad truth: as long as instances like .art keep moderating as they do ("proactively", guilt-by-association, etc.), Mastodon and the fediverse as a whole will stagnate.

I get that people want to keep it "manageable", but you also want more people to adopt the concept and ideology so we are not dependent on centralized services.

but new users will leave right away if they have to deal with federation issues if they can't interact with friends.

@pixel is “stagnation” bad? would it be preferrable to get bigger numbers at the cost of keeping an organization in people's timelines that has the reputation to be transphobic / platforming bigots?

@alinanorakari it hasn't even gotten to that point, but if they were to bring bigoted people etc. on here then they can rightfully do that, no offense then!

I assume the bigoted people want reach and whatnot and that is pretty hard to get on fedi anyway so I assume they wouldn't stick here for long anyway if so.

@pixel the BBC spreading transphobia on fedi is inevitable. It's not "some people in the BBC” it’s “The BBC as an institution”.
Why wait until somebody gets hurt by it when people on .art seem to prefer the proactive style because that makes .art a safe place.

The ability to defederate without a central committee or CEO deciding is the key strength of the fediverse and .art cutting out who the heck they want for what ever reason is exactly what some folks need to be on the fediverse

@alinanorakari @pixel >when somebody gets hurt

When they cry? Who gives a crap? They have tools at their disposal to silence them, unless they are being attacked by users of that instance of course. That’s when an admin needs to get involved. The entire idea of “please defederate them, they hurt my feelings” is a horrible idea.

@lina @alinanorakari @pixel slightly diverging into a general topic rather than trying to mention the BBC.