@dcc
Check this out, OpenBSD will run your favourite thing too pretty soon! You can run, but you can not hide! 😈
@splitshockvirus @charlie_root

OpenBSD already has wayland.

https://openports.pl/path/wayland/wayland

@charlie_root @splitshockvirus @m0xee Basically broken because its linux executive (thank god)

I'm sure it has a lot of linuxisms. Have you tried using it or are just speculating 🤔

@charlie_root @splitshockvirus @m0xee I read what a dev working on porting kde Wayland to openbsd posted on his blog

@charlie_root
Likewise. I've read on The Register that it's the product of some hackathon — not ready for prime time, just a proof of concept.
@dcc @splitshockvirus

@charlie_root
The take was so hot that I have even forgotten to paste the link 🤦
Thank you for doing it for me.
Well, like @dcc said, it's experimental for now, but who knows…
They did mitigate a lot of linuxisms with elogind already, which should be very portable IMO
@splitshockvirus

@m0xee @dcc @splitshockvirus @charlie_root don’t worry I’ll write my own unix system it will only work with X

@kirby @dcc @charlie_root @splitshockvirus @m0xee

Make it work with arcan

@histoire @charlie_root @splitshockvirus @m0xee @kirby >arcan
Mega based

@m0xee @splitshockvirus @charlie_root , Wayland users be like:

@dcc @splitshockvirus @m0xee basedland

> good evening

Damn where do you live 🤔

@charlie_root @splitshockvirus @m0xee @ringo He lives by the shores

@charlie_root @splitshockvirus @m0xee

california.

@ringo @charlie_root @splitshockvirus @m0xee Just me and ringo cleaning balls over here

@dcc @charlie_root @splitshockvirus @m0xee

ew.

no.

@ringo @charlie_root @splitshockvirus @m0xee Your not a golfer? you need to keep your bowling balls clean

@dcc @charlie_root @splitshockvirus @m0xee

golf is fun but when you have to pay for it yourself it gets expensive VERY quickly.

@ringo @charlie_root @splitshockvirus @m0xee Golf ranges are fun sometimes, otherwise i dont play it

@dcc @charlie_root @splitshockvirus @m0xee

its about- 45-70$ to play a game of 18 holes.

then of course you gotta buy a membership to the club, as well.

and of course, the balls, clubs, bag, tees, and all of that.

:)

@ringo @charlie_root @splitshockvirus @m0xee Extra true, its not worth it lol. I was making a references to the big lebowski though.

@dcc @charlie_root @splitshockvirus @m0xee

ah okay. seen it twice. long ago, like over 10 years ago. :) dont remember any of it :)

@ringo @charlie_root @splitshockvirus @m0xee You need to watch it again

@dcc @charlie_root @splitshockvirus @m0xee

i might, but odds are i wont :) <3

@ringo Personally, I have no problem with Wayland, unlike systemd and pulseaudio which are complete and utter garbage, I'm using it on machines that have video adapters capable of it and Wayland kinda just works for me, I have no warm and fuzzy feelings about X11 either, I think it's rather bad from dev's standpoint, but as a user I don't care.
I just know everyone loves Wayland… OMG, does this mean that I'm trooling? 😱
@splitshockvirus

@m0xee @splitshockvirus
i've been using linux since 1998 and see no advantage to wayland just yet.

what's any better about it ?

:)

@ringo @splitshockvirus @m0xee Nothing lol

@ringo Same here, I've been using it since a.out binaries were still a thing, I've been a Gentoo user for over a decade — no one should ever use it, it's the worst! Well, unless you're a huge fan of gdb and like spending hours in it trying to figure out what's causing the segfault after upgrade. Anyway, back to topic, Waylang… I've decided to check it out when I was trying to solve smooth scrolling issue in Firefox, you know, the tearing — it solves it perfectly, never looked back. I have zero problems with it because unlike systemd it only replaces one component of the system and does it well. I've been using i3, but Sway is a perfect WM for me (I only use it and patched dwm on my machines) — the way it interacts with Wayland is very straightforward, configuration is easy, one swaymsg command and you have a differen resolution, you want different scaling on another display — there, have it. You should remember well that RandR extension wasn't always there, you used to have to restart the X server just to get another display running or changing resolution, Xorg still has a lot of legacy code, Wayland doesn't and it has all these nice things that they've figured out through years baked right in and it was developed basically by the same people who do Xorg. I don't see anything wrong with it. It might not work well on your hardware — that is quite a serious reason not to like it, but for me it works perfecty. Losing X11 forwarding was a pity — but on the other hand, I think I can count the times I've used it for anything serious with fingers of one hand — I'm perfectly fine with doing things over VNC or even… not using fucking GUI at all 😂
@m0xee

@m0xEE @m0xee

interesting analysis.


for me the whole situation has been remedied by 'smooth scrolling'

with regards to that 'tearing'

but all things considered, im a trogdolite even after using linux since 1997 and wants the damn thing to just work..


i have hardware accelleration via integrated gfx and honestly i dont like doing extra tinkering just to have a thing work.

after 27 years they should be able to make the OS just install and work out of the box, the system and framework has been designed for such to facilitate untowards almost every hardware configuration imaginable. :)