plants don't really offer any instant feedback, do they. they just sit there and if you do something wrong, you won't know for a while.

@thor depends on how wrong and how mature the plant is (species also plays a role). Pour boiling water on a seedling the result is pretty quick.

Although they also emit sounds when damaged although it's outside of our hearing frequency range.

@thatguyoverthere Kickstarter idea: a little sensor with a speaker that lets you hear the plants speak

i know it's been monitored in a lab, but this would be a product.

@thatguyoverthere they sell those ultrasound devices that listen in on bat signals after all

@thor I used to love throwing something (baseballs work well) up into the air at dusk and watching the bats check it out. I dont see as many bats around here as I used to. When I was a kid there would always be one or two sleeping in a window or something.

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There are very few mosquitoes outside Moscow nowadays. They used to be a problem even in the city, there were no easily installable anti-mosquito nets, but lighter curtains were a must and vaporizers were nice to have. Outside of the city they still do come when you're cooking something in the kitchen late in the evening, but very few of them, still attracted by moist, heat and light, but you barely notice them at other times.

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@thatguyoverthere It also seldomly gets below -30°C in winter, I remember when I was a schoolkid it even got below -40°C — this was a huge problem as it damaged hot water pipes. Now it rarely gets below -30°C during winter, for a week maybe, or less. Global warming or not, things are definitely changing.

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@m0xee @thor yeah it's noticeable. I question whether we are causing temperature rises but the winters of my youth were quite a bit different. I think we have a hell of an environmental impact even if we aren't contributing to temperature rises. I just doubt many of the offered solutions.

@thatguyoverthere Same here. I do agree that if we want to have sustainable economy we have to strongly tone down on consumption, economy can't be based on mass-producing electronics that goes into garbage bin in 2-3 years (on computers running cryptographic hash function 24/7 either).
But some of the problems raised are questionable to say the least, e.g. I don't get the beef problem. I'm not against people not eating meat when it's their choice.

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@thatguyoverthere Doesn't work for me, I do feel myself better when I'm on carnivore diet. I'm also not against looking for new sources of protein, but I still think that the whole problem is way overblown.
The whole renting instead of owning does work when it really allows people to save, but it shouldn't be imposed on everyone — and it feels especially hypocritical when people who tell us that are brought in to their regular COP by dozens of private jets 🤷

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@m0xee @thor the beef thing is weird, because on the one hand, I agree that the way we farm beef is generally unsustainable, but it's really a much more local problem that could be solved by spreading out the farms. Instead of having a handful of massive feed lots a bunch of small farms that primarily feed grasses to the cows (which they can graze on their own) is much more sustainable, and the quality of meat is higher which results in better health for the people eating it. Instead somehow the solution is stop farming meat and start farming crickets and algae.
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