@iska Will astra linux pick as THE national distro or will they just promote debian, since that is what astra is based off iirc

@EdBoatConnoisseur @iska there is better Alt exists, that's maintained by actual FOSS devs and not some half-FSB half-corporate clowns like Astra.

@a1ba @iska I’d say straight up using debian is better, tho idk how good is the debian support for elbrus cpus, so there is where the big win of astra may be on things where the govt mandates no usage of foreign hardware, maybe the mainland china zen1 custom architecture could get a govt exception since that one ain’t controlled by the west.

@EdBoatConnoisseur @iska

Elbrus is supported by practically nothing in FOSS world. And some shitheads even reverting patches crafted by small community because "muh made for evil govt". ioquake3 for example, moreover it still compiles without error, they just removed a small clutch in included curl sources. Also, recently gproftools removed it.

Astra has Elbrus support but only in special edition, that certified by FSB, which means that they support it but won't update packages.

ALT meanwhile supports Elbrus in two branches, stable and so called sisyphus (rolling-release).

MCST has its own reference distro, with patches that's practically impossible to get, unless you know right people or willing to sign an NDA.

@a1ba @iska Wot is ALT ?

@EdBoatConnoisseur @iska https://www.altlinux.org https://www.basealt.ru/

Quite old Russian distribution. Not derived directly from anything, uses APT with RPM packages.

@a1ba @iska @EdBoatConnoisseur ALT seems like a pretty good distro all things considered, definitely one I've considered using at points which is more than I can say for any other Russian developed distro

@allison @iska @EdBoatConnoisseur yeah, it's easy to feel the passion of the maintainers working on it.

Though, it's also used by some govt organizations, but in their case it doesn't really affect the trust score.

@a1ba @iska @EdBoatConnoisseur Not like the spooks here don't use Red Hat, Ubuntu, and SUSE anyways

@allison @a1ba @iska @EdBoatConnoisseur

That's... not inaccurate.

Red Hat was also the first OS I installed on a computer from scratch.

@LoliHat @a1ba @iska @EdBoatConnoisseur Mine was Ubuntu... probably (zoomer moment, I know)

@allison @iska @EdBoatConnoisseur @LoliHat same. I started from 9.10 on virtual machine and later installed 10.04 to second drive.

Of course, if it wasn't Compiz not working on virtual machines, I wouldn't run it on real hardware.