@ludicity Anyone who ever really cared about valid software metrics wouhld be conversant with Capers Jones and would never, ever use something as unscientific as story points to try to measure software effort.
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Anyone who ever really cared about valid software metrics wouhld be conversant with Capers Jones and would never, ever use something as unscientific as story points to try to measure software effort.
That's a ridiculously absolute statement and obviously wrong.
And the whole reason story points are so explicitly vague is that there is no reliable scientific method to measure "software effort".
@mcv Capers Jones, IFPUG, etc., have a lot of data that shows how software effort is measurable and predictable. It's not perfect and there are gaps, but that's mostly due to a lack of acceptance. FUD abounds.
In the software world, it's easy to shout, "Perfect is the enemy of the good!", and invent a new 3GL rather than evaluate if it'll be a waste of time.
I have no doubt that Capers Jones has valuable insights, but this is honestly the first time I've heard of him, so I'm pretty sure a lot of people out there haven't. Thanks for mentioning him, though; I'll definitely look him up.
But I remain sceptical about the ability to accurately and scientifically measure and estimate programming effort. It's a problem that has stumped people for decades, and I'd expect a lot more noise if someone had definitively cracked it.
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I have a very short list of people to listen to regarding software development:
1. Sally Shlaer and Steve Mellor for system structure and software modeling.
2. Tom DeMarco and Tim Lister for software management.
3. Capers Jones for software effort measurement.
4. C. J. Date for database.
Hopefully there are younger people continuing their work.