@freedcreative I'm fairly pessimistic. Proactive change wont happen in the wealthy nations before their wealth is threatened. They won't change for the benefit of those with fewer resources.

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@lightweight @freedcreative@merveilles.town Yes. Here's one of the basic things activists need to learn; people need strong incentive to change, and people often don't find future consequences to be incentive. This means you need to threaten their livelihood to produce incentive. Personal (and this extends to friends and family) wealth and health are the prime motivators.

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