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@ademalsasa Office suites are terrible things in general. The computing world was a much better place when the tools competed on their own merits. Proprietary interoperability was the cudgel used to compel people to suites.
The same thing happened in the development world with IDEs. Convenience comes at a price to the user. Without Microsoft's abusive monopoly, the computing world might have found better paths to interoperability.
@lwriemen @ademalsasa To be fair, Microsoft are better at interop than Google and Apple combined.
@ademalsasa @lwriemen Google in particular get bonus points for championing open standards only to trash them and discard them.
@Zergling_man this one is interesting. Is there an example or link to read? I would love to know more.
@ademalsasa @lwriemen I don't have links, only memory, although the Google Graveyard might have some hints.
The most notable example, in my mind, is Hangouts being based on XMPP, partly because Facebook did the exact same thing with it.
Arguably it is their entire MO with HTML/JS/CSS, since they regularly abuse "it's standard if Chrome supports it". But I don't really count it.
I don't remember the other couple I've noticed off-hand, because I wasn't as involved in them
@Zergling_man @ademalsasa The dominant browser sets the web standards has been the defacto strategy since the days of Netscape. Netscape and Internet Explorer used the strategy to hold off competition for years. The W3C was always behind and often couldn't set a standard, if IE and Netscape each had their own way of presenting the same data.
OS/2 had a standards based browser that Netscape quickly made obselete by introducing non-standard extensions.
@lwriemen @ademalsasa In other words, when writing websites, follow W3C spec, fuck Google, if the user-agent looks like chrome pop one of those "you should upgrade to a better browser" messages on users :^)
@ademalsasa @lwriemen Oh and then your recommendations start with lynx
@Zergling_man Only within the Windows environment, and before the rise of mobile, Microsoft would break their own interop whenever a competition used it. @ademalsasa
@lwriemen thank you so much. I learned a lot. I really like how you describe Microsoft here.