...we'll still boost the cries of revolution. I think that at the core we all know that we know nothing, or at least know that we can prove nothing. Was Steve Mellor right, or was Robert C. Martin right? ( I know it was Steve, but I can't prove it in a manner that doesn't cost a huge amount of money.) That is the price we pay for not making software metrics universal. That is why I harp on software metrics. The function point data is relevant.