All this fuss about SolarWinds and still nobody in the C-suites have figured out that there is no way for cloud compute nodes to ever be secure from sufficiently centralised prying eyes.

I wonder how many years it will take before the scale of compromise caused by cloud compute is revealed.

Cloud capabilities would only be deployed by the American military, not Chinese or Russians, and only against people the US military-industrial-cyberklept complex doesn't like, so it might be *many* years.

@natecull

> and still nobody in the C-suites have figured out that there is no way for cloud compute nodes to ever be secure from sufficiently centralised prying eyes

i mean, look, i think everybody who's got sort of a basic grasp of what computers are and has thought about it for ~20 minutes is aware of this, which can't rule out the *entirety* of the executive class. a good chunk of them are perfectly aware of it. what's nearly universal is the tacit agreement to pretend it doesn't matter.

@natecull this is not entirely unrelated to the way that the entire tech industry keeps right on trucking along (after pausing to swear at one another for a bit) every time we come across something like spectre/meltdown or notice that intel has chucked an entire extra operating system backdoor in all of their hardware, instead of going "ok actually, shit, hold on it might turn out that even vaguely trustable computers are completely impossible, what are we going to do about this"

Follow

@brennen @natecull Not to mention that software is science, one of the key aspects to controlling science and predicting scientific outcomes is measurement, and measurement is generally not practised in software. Be very afraid of the monster we've created!

Sign in to participate in the conversation
Librem Social

Librem Social is an opt-in public network. Messages are shared under Creative Commons BY-SA 4.0 license terms. Policy.

Stay safe. Please abide by our code of conduct.

(Source code)

image/svg+xml Librem Chat image/svg+xml