keverets @keverets@librem.one

@eff Yes.

@mattl being told by someone financially dependant on you (or someone who cares about that set of people), or by someone in the life insurance industry?

@eff

And yet EFF recommended WhatsApp despite obvious deficiencies for years.

"WhatsApp’s strength is that it is easy to use, making secure messaging more accessible for people of varying skill levels and interests."

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/03/why-we-cant-give-you-recommendation

@jcc @Bubu I use Conversations on Android, and have SMS in that via jmp.chat

Unfortunately no great XMPP client for iOS yet, but Siskin and Monal are continually improving (and continually fighting Apple's increasing restrictions).

@dthompson that's pretty much what the shops do. Big, fancy mitre saws though that's not really required.

@Carnivore @Motomurphyadv more like reducing from 2 sets of spying agencies to 1 set

@dthompson does that have any material effect this time?

@Gina seems relevant: https://mastodon.social/@heyokyay/105526784725421052

@dthompson I agree but unfortunately there still isn't an alternative that is buildable from source, e2ee-by-default, and works well on both iOS and Android. With the recent WhatsApp snafu, it's unfortunately the best option for those users.

Once Element (or an alternative matrix client) becomes more usable and feature complete, or a good XMPP iOS client emerges (works well for notifications from third party servers), then we can put a nail in Signal.

@Bubu still using Instagram and WhatsApp though?