Study reveals scale of data-sharing from Android mobile phones:

Even when minimally configured and the handset is idle, with the notable exception of e/OS, these vendor-customized Android variants transmit substantial amounts of information to the OS developer and to third parties such as Google, Microsoft, LinkedIn, and Facebook that have pre-installed system apps. There is no opt-out from this data collection.

I happen to be using /e/ OS for the last ~2 years on all my #android phones and quite pleased to read it.

@kravietz wait, LineageOS comes preinstalled with Google apps????????
@xerz

Not by default but on the other hand LineageOS doesn't strip any of the code planted by Google in AOSP sources like 204 connectivity check. To have fully de-googled ROM you need to actively strip these and replace with services you run on your own or Mozilla does. This was reported as one of the issues in early /e/ ROM releases and they have implemented their own replacements since.
@kravietz that's not what this study reports on, at all – besides, that's like the least intrusive feature possible, if it is indeed kept in LineageOS by default
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@xerz @kravietz it's unfortunate that the authors don't separate stock LineageOS from LineageOS with the "Optional" (but usually recommended) GApps. /e/ did get a lot of crap (validly) for not removing all traces of Google connections from their forks of Lineage, which they eventually dealt with.

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@keverets @xerz

There’s one important point to that which I only recalled as we started talking about it (I haven’t used Lineage for a couple of years).

The original LineageOS #Android doesn’t have signature faking patch and its devs consistently reject it, so unless you want to stick to apps from F-Droid only you only have two choices - either install GApss, or use Lineage4MicroG, which is a fork of LineageOS.

On the latter you could freely use F-Droid apps and mainstream apps from Aurora Store, but it had more limited hardware support as compared to original LineageOS.

With /e/ you don’t really even have to think about any of that, it just works.

@kravietz @keverets I mean, I agree with LineageOS’ approach, and indeed the MicroG images Just Work™. I think the FOSS community should try focusing on supporting and sharing these first and foremost :blobcatthink:

@xerz @keverets

I guess if you use /e/ you already do - I assume they do donate to LineageOS as they heavily rely on it. The point is that LineageOS is a bit like Linux kernel, with no other services, which in turn /e/ provides (cloud services, documents, data sync, pre-installed phones etc). So it all forms a nice ecosystem in my views - and I'm myself using Fairphone purchased from /e/ and quite happy about it.
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