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Really? I hadn't heard of any anti-semitic or socialist posts from him. What exactly did he say that was nazi related?
@jlcrawf @malwaretech socialism isn't Naziism please don't make me explain this to you
@Leroy @malwaretech
Sure, explain to me how the National Socialists weren't "real" socialists.
here's og joseph goebbels rubbing it in your fucking face
https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/haken32.htm
@troglodyt @Leroy @malwaretech
Having now read the entire section titled Why we are socialists? You have dobe nothing to convince me that they were not socialist.
Let me help you, a good argument would look like, the tenets of socialism are ....., but the nazis believe ..... and they fail at socialism because ....
no you did not
it's very explicit about class peace, racial superiority and ultranationalism
@troglodyt @Leroy @malwaretech
In why we are socialist section, he explains why he ties nationalism to socialism. He does not believe that it would work without it. That does not disqualify him from being a socialist, nor does it imply that he is lying about socialism to gain followers.
Again, the simplest way to show that nazis were not socialist would be to lay out the tenets of socialism vs the tenets of nazism and show how nazism fails.
no he does not, he explains that what he calls socialism has nothing whatsoever to do with socialism, by very explicitly grounding it in a class peace, the polar opposite of the socialist 'no war but class war'
@troglodyt @Leroy @malwaretech
See, that is an example of what I am looking for. Differences between nazis and socialists.
Although, if I understood what you wrote correctly, it seems that you are trying to make the point that socialists are calling for class warfare, whereas nazis want peace between the classes.
@jlcrawf @troglodyt @malwaretech peace between classes means peace with the oppressor, which is a one way street
@Leroy @troglodyt @malwaretech
That garbage aside, the only expalanation anyone has come up with for how nazis are not "real" socialists, is that nazis want peace between classes while socialists want class warfare.
If that is the only difference, that is not enough to convince me that they were not "real" socialists.
@jlcrawf @troglodyt @malwaretech read a fucking book then idk what to tell you that you're not just gonna write off. Socialism and fascism are two wildly different ideologies and the Nazis were fascists. It doesn't matter what they called themselves, I could call myself the president that doesn't make me the president. You have to look at their fucking policy choices not their naming conventions. I can't give you an entire history lesson in one reply. Just please understand you're not the first person to be this ignorant and people way smarter than me have way better answers for you just a couple of clicks away and have had these answers for a long time
@Leroy @troglodyt @malwaretech
You have yet to name a single policy choice that sets them apart. You are the one that said "don't make me explain" how they are different. I took that to mean that an explanation existed. So far, the only explanations provided were, "they lied", "they developed a ruling class", and "they wanted peace between classes".
@troglodyt @Leroy @malwaretech
thanks for playing.
