@devinprater@dragonscave.space
Said another way. Someone with special needs did absolutely no research to determine whether the product they were purchasing could support those needs. When the product inevitably did not, it is the fault of the programmers who are working free of charge, despite the fact that it is not yet even a finished project that could be recommended for most people without special needs.

@jlcrawf @devinprater “here’s your goddamn gruel, street rat. take it or leave it, but don’t complain because it’s free” is not great sales technique for FOSS. every time I see this sentiment it makes me more sympathetic to microsoft.

MICROSOFT. i hate microsoft! but because MS cares about accessibility and FOSS people don’t, microsoft is better at human rights. and you have to try pretty hard to worse than supporting ICE

@zens @devinprater@dragonscave.space
The pinephone is a testing product not an end user device. Mobian is barely a year old. While it is the most daily driver ready OS (at least from my research) It has a long way to go before it is ready for prime time.
Again, the developers are working free of charge in their spare time. And yes, they will probably work on the things they need first. Then they will most likely work on the things the the majority need. Special needs will come.

@jlcrawf @devinprater 20% of the population is disabled in some way. I’ve seen foss devs bend over backwards for obscure hardware almost no one uses, or browsees with 1% market share. not impressed with the patronising “wait your turn” tone. one day, you too will he disabled by age. this isn’t a niche issue.

@jlcrawf @devinprater also: is the pinephone a consumer product being sold for actual money?
did they also skimp on fire and electrical safety laws?

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@zens @devinprater@dragonscave.space
If you are going to rely on people working for free in their spare time, then you are going to get what they choose to work on first.
You are not entitled to their labor. They are giving of their labor freely.

@jlcrawf @devinprater repeating the same argument a second time doesn’t make it more convincing

@jlcrawf @devinprater for all your posturing about how the blind person should have done better research; and pointing out warnings on the website about the product they should not be allowed to legally sell; have you bothered to check if the website is accessible to screen readers?

@zens @devinprater@dragonscave.space
No, I haven't. But if it is not accessible to screen readers, that might have been considered a first clue that the phone is not ready either.
Yes, I will continue to posture on researching products before you spend money on them. It does not matter whether you have any disabilities or not, you should always research to see if the product you are buying will meet your needs.

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