@Secftblgirl
Stereotypes. Same reason female IT specialists aren't respected as easily. These are both areas where most females usually choose not to focus their time and energy, therefore the average female is not competent. Because the average is not, it is easy to look at all and say that they are not.
That's not entirely true. Most of us in tech have dealt with awesome female technologists. We just know how to spot diversity hires. It's not their sex, they just expose their failure so quickly when they aren't there on merit.
Mechanics, on the other hand, are just dicks to women because so many of them have nothing to gain by pretending not to be misogynistic.
@leyonhjelm @Secftblgirl
Don't get me wrong, I work in IT and work with some amazing women. When I was in college, I was a delivery driver for O'Reilly auto parts and one of our best salesmen was a women.
But, I have seen in both instances, that people (not just men) had a harder time trusting the advice that the women give them.
Once people got to know the women, in both instances, they found them to be invaluable.
@leyonhjelm @Secftblgirl
I think that it does. The stereotype is that girls aren't good with cars or computers. That is why they are typically treated like they don't know anything when people first interact with them. This stereotype can be overcome, but it has to be overcome by proving themselves more than a guy would have to.
That's a myth. Everyone has to prove themselves professionally. I've worked with crap males as well, they don't get a pass either.
@leyonhjelm @Secftblgirl
It's a myth that I have seen play out many times. I'm not saying that it is an insurmountable hurdle. I'm also not saying that males that are crappy at their jobs get away with it because they are males. It just seems to take people longer to trust girls in those two professions. Once the girl has built the trust, they get along just as well as guys.
You seem so invested in the myth that you're at risk of actually making the old myth more true than it was at any point in my career. And I've been doing this for literal decades.
@leyonhjelm @Secftblgirl
I'm not really all that invested in it. I'm just telling you what I've seen multiple times. I don't even think that it is a problem. If it is true, it's a natural consequence of the fact the their are fewer girls in these fields (which is changing in IT). Life's not fair for anyone, but it helps to know where the hurdles are so that you can know how to get past them.
Bullshit. The hurdles are formerly women trying to change things when they get there at the expense of literally everyone else, and now the risk of #metoo. Women are their own worst enemies. Trusting their skills in technology is easy. Trusting them not to ruin everything else is what you're misinterpreting as not seeing them as competent.
Case in point, Derbycon.
@leyonhjelm @Secftblgirl
I don't necessarily disagree on any point. Except, I work at a place where we mostly do support remotely. I've had to convince female clients to give some of the girls a chance.
@leyonhjelm @Secftblgirl
Possible. All I know is how they acted. With the exception of our newest girl, I've had to defend every girl that we've had at one time or another. Always within the first two or three months that they were there.
Of course, it probably didn't help that the first female tech that we had working for us was actually really bad at her job.
In that case I hope you've learned something of the difference between correlation and causation in our little discussion.
I don't think what you just said helps your argument.