The Gujarat Model is an illusionary dream! I mean what's the Gujarat Model? Encounters. Killings. Riots. Rapes. Creating a power center. Hate. Violence. Creating Fear. Communalizing Politics. I don't know what the hell about it made it promising? I have been tracking the Modi-Shah bullshit pre 2014.

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We folks suffer from an affliction of not thinking deeply enough or asking tough questions - for folks like that it is very easy to sell any packaged crap as manna from heaven. That's the Gujarat model in a nutshell.
One can package a dead donkey any which way, eventually it is bound to stink.

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@ilr Welcome to this thread. Yes, I am aware that my statement can apply to a fairly wide swathe of areas. But would love to hear if you are going somewhere with this.

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@ilr Thanks for that. Will check out your recent stuff.
Isn't a falling savings rate, for quite a while now, one of the fundamental reasons for the headwinds that we have been facing? In fact, isn't this one of the reasons that any interest rate reduction by the RBI hasn't really translated into a lending rate drop?

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@Samyukth @musafir the falling savings rate is a natural consequence of inflation.
Lending rates etc are totally artificial when ur cb is setting an interest rate and does not reflect the supply and demand of savings and investment.
Theres a lot to disassemble in your q, maybe a good starting point for understanding the big picture is this lecture:

youtu.be/SAN5CKbZnD0

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@ilr Thanks, will listen to it and get back to this thread.

@musafir

@ilr This is so different from the economics that I am used to that it is quite tough to comprehend the implications- might have to listen to this again.

Top of mind questions :-
1. Basically most economies today are Fiat Economies in some shape, right? Incl India.
2. Any economy that runs a Fiscal Deficit, by definition, will be a Fiat Economy, correct? Since that delta needs to come from either debt or printing?
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@Samyukth @musafir Yes this is Austrian economics, otherwise just called "economics" until Keynes came around and ruined things after the *second* great depression.

See this lecture about the *first* great depression which sorted out pretty quickly:

youtube.com/watch?v=czcUmnsprQ

Answers to q1 and 2 : yes, all economies are today fiat money economies

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