@Mina Of course! It could be good, I think. But yeah, it pretty much went very low and it feels as if in some way, me leaving was the catalyst to get it all going again, however slowly it might be.

@xogium @Mina@swiss-talk.net I have no insight myself in the issue re blind and Linux, nor am I a developer. In the beginning it says Linux, ie GNU/Linux as operating system. Does it basically mean all GNU/Linux OS? Furthermore, there is an example of Ardour. It's a sw I do not use, but as far as I know, it is available also on Windows - does it mean it is ok on Windows? I guess I wonder is the issue related to Linux, or is it more the situation of FOSS/open source in general?

@hehemrin @Mina I mean Linux in general, yes.

Every linux that runs wayland or gtk 4, or a combination of them will face issues.

As for gtk apps on windows, you can totally forget about them being accessible to screen readers. They are entirely unusable and have been for years.

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@xogium @Mina@swiss-talk.net Thanks. Where is macOS in comparison?

@hehemrin @Mina I can't say much about mac, as I've never owned one. But it does have some really useful features I wouldn't mind trying out for myself one day, provided I ever have the money to get one.

I can tell you that qt on mac is a disaster for accessibility, but cocoa or whatever they call the native UI handling is very much usable. A bit like the windows way of doing things as long as you don't use custom widgets, using MSAA I believe. Accessibility wasn't natively integrated i.e: until windows 10 there was no screen reader built into windows.

Linux used to have a good equivalent back in the days of gtk 2 and 3, but gtk 4 messed it up real good by making it so the screen reader and the UI constantly fight over the keyboard, and has a lot of subtle and not so subtle regressions going on. It's being worked on, so there's that... But it'll take time. Accessibility isn't integrated natively into the systems, it's more an afterthought that has been added.

@xogium @Mina@swiss-talk.net Aha, oki, thanks. I indeed Linux will improve, so it will become relevant and useful not only for me with a good vision.
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