Had to use Win11 and MS Excel for a few minutes today on a colleague's laptop.
Oh my. UI and UX has gotten *SO* bad. It was just painful and clumsy to use.
I thought Win2k and Office 2003 were infinitely better.
Does nobody use an actual MOUSE anymore? It's such a pain to use modern scroll bars, and there's no way to scroll through an enormous spreadsheet with the mouse wheel. My laptop has a pretty great trackpad -- large, glass, and responsive. I still prefer a mouse.
@RL_Dane I saw a thing that GTK is making the “real scrollbars” option official. Happy if true.
Really? GTK4?
Recent GTK/Gnome/KDE/ElementaryOS have had atrocious usability. With KDE, at least you can customize it to be better.
I think about UIs a lot. I'd like to hear different perspectives on it, and I think you'd have some interesting ideas, perspective and maybe theory.
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I don't have too many complaints against GTK4 itself, as it's mostly concerned with what's *inside* the windows, although from what little I've heard, it seems to be under the control of the Gnome team, and not so much a toolkit for anyone to use anymore. Not sure about that, though.
@golemwire
My main kvetch about modern UIs is the scrollbars (tiny, hard to hit, almost unusable) and titlebars: no contrast between active and inactive windows. That last one makes me want to scream, because that was fixed forty years ago, and now broken by devs without a clue.
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