@Fusioncow
Great to meet you fusioncow!
I did a double-take at the second sentence, assuming there was a typo. Only by the power of the Son and the Spirit can man act completely without sin. (Romans 8:7-9) (John 8:34-35)
@Fusioncow
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John 7:53-8:11 is one of two passages still appearing in modern bibles which shouln't be there: it wasn't part of John's original gospel. However, John 5:14 includes a similar command: "Don't sin any more, lest anything worse happen to you." Ephesians 2 teaches clearly that God's gift of grace saved us who were children of wrath, dead in transgressions. The slave to sin doesn't hear God (John 8:31-47). Freedom to reject sin is granted by God's grace.
That's fascinating and something I had not come across before. This is certainly much deeper than I have delved into it and I don't have the credentials or skill to properly identify that verse.
I follow where you are going - indeed we are slaves to sin but for His grace (Romans 6:14). It is our nature as of the moment of the original sin. We cannot submit to God (Romans 8:7).
What I'm missing in there, is that somewhere we still have free will, lest we believe along the lines of predestination. In a moment of temptation, ought we not fight to do the right thing? Not that it saves us; that is though grace alone, but because we are saved?
Perhaps it is my wording "chose to act without sin" implies that we can decide not to sin and then forever be free of its chains. Better wording may be "chose to flee from sin"?
@everlastingrocks
Likewise! Thanks for pointing out the second sentence, I think I see your point and I don't necessarily disagree with it.
I believe in the trinity and my understanding is that Jesus was sent as man because he had to fulfill prophecy without sin while under the same temptations as us. Where I think I was going with that sentence was more in relation to his words "go and sin no more" (John 8:11). This seems to mean that salvation is unattainable without his intervention, but we do have freedom of choice, and the ability to reject sin. What are your thoughts? Would you word it differently?