@furilabs have you considered moving away from Github (owned by Microsoft)?
For someone like me who is looking for independence from "Big Tech", seeing that you are on Github is a really bad sign, and it makes me reluctant to contribute.
Look at others, like Gnome, Purism, postmarketOS, Mobian, and so on, they all use something else. I think they know that Github is bad for them, both in practice and in principle.
#furilabs #gnome #purism #postmarketOS #MobileLinux #LinuxMobile #github #git
@Blort @eliasr @furilabs The same here. If I see that a project is hosted on #Github I'm always disappointed. I interpret as a clear sign that the project does not really understand what Free Software (#FOSS) means, or that they do not practice what they preach.
Unfortunately quite some big, important projects are on Github. But especially, when a project starts I do not understand the decision to go for Github.
@janvlug @Blort @eliasr @furilabs because not everyone thinks of a project in the same way you do. FOSS does not imply "anti-big tech". My decision to release code under one of the FOSS licenses is because I'm giving my free time to the world, but I'll always release it on GitHub because it's the most popular place to access it, and the easiest place for contributors to offer changes. I've found that projecting my desires on someone else's gift, is the easiest way to get frustrated and annoyed.
@JonTheNiceGuy thanks for explaining your reasoning.
I think that to some extent this is about how you view your own responsibility for the state of the world. When I see how messed up things are, I consider it my responsibility to not just play along but to do something.
But I think it may also be about awareness of the scale of the problem. The situation we have today is really, really bad.
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@JonTheNiceGuy oh and on top of all that, they (github) don't even support ipv6. 😆
@eliasr @janvlug @Blort @furilabs Again, it comes down to how much the perceived ethics of a company you consume impacts what you are doing as a hobby. For example, do you drive a car? Smoke or drink? Buy locally produced food? I'm not saying that any of those choices are "wrong" or "right" - they're personal *choices*. In the past I've fought to convince others they're making the "wrong choices", and realised that all being ignored does is upset _me_ (and often doesn't change their mind).
@eliasr @janvlug @Blort @furilabs that said. I'm glad we're able to talk about this rationally - 15-20 years ago, I would have been backing up your view on this, waving something like this: https://xkcd.com/386/
That said, not supporting IPv6 - UNBEARABLE! 😜
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Still I think it is good to point out things that can be improved. Yes, start with yourself, practice what you preach (pretty difficult, so I try to focus on practicing, not preaching).
Many changes in my personal views have been initiated by remarks and questions of others. So I think it is important to express opinions to inform others.
> Many changes in my personal views have been initiated by remarks and questions of others
Do you remember specific things like that?
Annoyingly for me, I cannot really remember what my own thought process was when I started thinking about these things. I think it was probably gradual somehow, but there must have been some specific things I heard or read as well. I wish I had kept a diary so I could go back and look there. 🙂
Remarks about many topics, like free software, religion, basic income, bitcoin, veganism, privacy, law and order. I changed my views on several of these, or I learnt about them from others. For example I clearly remember someone saying that GNU was so cool. I was still a student. I asked what it meant, and was confused. It took a long time before I fully understood it, and the same for the other topics.
@JonTheNiceGuy are you aware that GitHub is owned by Microsoft, and that Microsoft is not only large but it is literally the largest company in the world?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/263264/top-companies-in-the-world-by-market-capitalization/
The world's largest company, which made its profits on selling proprietary software and being a monopolist relying on vendor lock-in and so on, is given the role ot caretaker of FOSS. This situation is so extremely bad that it surprises me that so many FOSS projects go along with it.
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