google rant:

a little website i shepherd for a friend has a contact form. it uses php mail() via sendmail. ive done all the things: fail2ban, recaptcha, spf, dkim, reject dmarc policy; the config is just as tight as my personal mail server, and few to no illegitimate form submissions ever make it as far as the mta.

gmail happily sends a daily dmarc report congratulating me for successful spf and dkim tests, yet refuses to deliver any messages to a gmail inbox. at the same time, the target gmail inbox is stacked full of spam, all from gmail.com addresses.

google is a bully and a tyrant and hostile to the open internet. msft does the same shit.

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> google is a bully and a tyrant and
> hostile to the open internet.
> msft does the same shit.

Yes, and let's not pretend this is going to change if we just ask those companies to change. They behave like that because it benefits them, it's helps them keep their near-monopoly position. What needs to happen is that people need to stop using google (gmail) and microsoft for email.

Email is good and it works fine. The problem is google and microsoft. Everyone should stop using them.

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