HOPE needs help!!
The enshittification of email has led to their announcement emails getting filed to spam by Google etc al. (We run our own mailserver and have been wrestling with this for *years*, but at least our livelihoods don't depend on it!)
@pluralistic has a great writeup here:
https://pluralistic.net/2024/01/19/hope-less/#hack-the-planet
Signal boosting because fuck Big Email...
@llorenzin people should just stop using Google and Microsoft email. Just move away to something decent, almost anything else is better. People who keep using those big ones are helping thm keep their position which is really bad.
Also, more organizations should run their own mailservers. Be free!
@eliasr On the one hand, I absolutely agree with you that the big email providers are doing terrible things to one of the last bastions of the open Internet!
On the other hand, I cannot in good conscience recommend to anyone that they run their own mailserver right now, because it is *such* a PITA. People who depend on email for actual important functions simply don't need this hassle.
I wish more people would move to Proton mail or other privacy-conscious options, but I absolutely understand why all my non-technical friends use Gmail - it's feature-rich, easy, has good spam filtering, and doesn't cost anything *that they care about*.
@llorenzin thanks for answering, I so see what you mean, but:
> I absolutely understand why all
> my non-technical friends use
> Gmail [...] has good spam filtering, [...]
This I think is wrong. Is not the whole point of this discussion re. HOPE is that Google et al has very deeply messed-up spam filtering?
The so-called "spam" filtering behavior is not a reason to use gmail, it is rather a very strong reason to leave gmail.
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@llorenzin
I think we need to move the problem from the sender HOPE who did nothing wrong, to gmail and its users. Those users have a problem. They cannot receive important communication because they uise a shitty email provider. Those users should act.
Email is for communication. If your email service does not deliver something important to you, then that is a critical error. The communication system is failing at its core function. Being "feature-rich" is irrelevant compared to that.
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