Oh just learned that the Mammoth app on iOS for Mastodon is VC-backed.

So, yeah, don't use that one.

@eliasr, I think @aurynn meant venture capital in that context. It’s probably also worth noting that iOS is developed by a big tech company with a rather interesting track record though.

@cnx @eliasr and Android is developed by a malevolent advertising company, what’s your point?

@aurynn

I think the point is people should stop using iOS and Android.

There are free (as in freedom) alternatives, see @linmob

@cnx

@eliasr once anything is in the same league of technical quality and user experience as iOS and Android, I will be interested to see it. Been interested in seeing it for well over a decade now. @linmob @cnx

I wasn't recommending Android either, @aurynn. My point was that in the list of harmful software to be eliminated from one's life, Apple products should probably rank higher than some proprietary client for a public social network. See also @eliasr's pointer to GNU-like systems for mobile devices; @postmarketOS currently has the most support for, well, post-market devices.

@cnx when a Linux is comparable to macOS, I will be very interested. Been very interested in that for over 2 decades now.

Still waiting.

@eliasr @postmarketOS

@aurynn, could you please point out the special features keeping you on macOS? Cc: @eliasr

@cnx @eliasr
Xcode
A single common API toolkit
A broad selection of developers making quality paid software

@aurynn @cnx @eliasr You like XCode? All macOS based developers I talk too hate it 🤔

Sure there isn't a single API toolkit, but there are really only 2 worthy of mention (GTK and Qt). Choose one of them and you're done (also having choice is a good thing imo).

And Linux has a giant community of developers, not sure what you're missing there.

@bart @cnx @eliasr the point being that the missing feature is a decades-old culture of developers truly caring and sweating the tiny details of good UX that suffuses macOS and iOS. This isn’t a feature checklist that any Linux can meet because the community values different things. And the things the Linux community values, I do not value.

So, please stop evangelising in my mentions.

@aurynn @cnx @eliasr Uh, sorry? I'm not trying to evangelise, just trying to counter the arguments you gave. I don't know you and I have no reason to evangelise, it seems like a bit of a hostile response to be honest. Preferring macOS, although I disagree with the reasons why, is just fine and you should do whatever you like.

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