»There are approximately 230 Russian and Ukrainian brigades in Ukraine, though most are under-strength. Many European countries would struggle to produce a single combat-capable brigade each.« Economist

@a_sator This seems like a good reason to consider alternate approaches to just throwing money at European militaries. Our Kreisky government demonstrated an excellent example of such leadership. They fully embraced and figured out how to make that an effective defense policy. This also would apply on the European level. We don't need to drum up war plans against China and Russia. We wouldn't defeat them anyway. We can accept that, and make better policy for all involved.

@a_sator Too often people seem to overlook that neutrality was also a key part of what got the Soviet Union to leave , and kept them out since World War II. We'll see whether joining will be as effective.

@eighthave @a_sator Not many Finnish people look fondly of that time. It wasn't so much being neutral but more of being afraid to have our own foreign policy. There is special word for it, suomettuminen (Finlandization en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finlandi ). Luckily we were able to join EU after the collapse of the Soviet Union, something we probably couldn't do before.

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@korkeala @a_sator sure, that's a real effect, and I'm definitely not saying it was a great time. What I am saying it that it is a better option than being systematically destroyed by that more powerful neighbor, like what is happening in Ukraine today.

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