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Austria joining NATO would also be about contributing to the common defense of democratic Europe. And Austria would need to clean house in terms of the free-for-all security/spying situation in Vienna.

Essentially Austria is not neutral right now, we just simply refuse to contribute our fair share. It’s very convenient to say “ah but we’re neutral” and not have to deal with strategic decisions.

@szbalint @nanoelquant@c.im @Lazycog@mastodon.online That logic presumes that NATO decreases war. The evidence is pretty clear that NATO just shifts wars outside of NATO. That is not anything I think a democratic and anti-war Europe should take part in. That line of reasoning is exactly what the PR firms of NATO weapons industry is spending lots of money pushing. Austria contributes by supporting global diplomacy, there is a good reason why things like the Iran Nuclear Deal is handled in Vienna.

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@szbalint @nanoelquant@c.im @Lazycog@mastodon.online The hard part is that there is big money in selling weapons, and not for selling neutrality and peace. That gives the military industrial complexes around the world big money to spend to sway opinions to keep the money gushing towards weapons, both in and in . And more NATO members means more money to spend on proxy wars like Ukraine, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, etc.

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