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@nanoelquant@c.im I think this leaves out the part where started a 20 year war in , disasterous involvement in , and key NATO members invaded because they wanted its oil. Sure, joining NATO could stop from invading, but then you're contributing to invading other countries.

@nanoelquant@c.im And also consider that and directly supported terrorist militants in Kosovo, where they remain problematic en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_L

@eighthave @nanoelquant what? We as Austrians joined NATO in Afghanistan. While being super neutral. But beside that. What is the whole point? Still quite save surrounded by nato countries.

@tootiredtothink @nanoelquant@c.im Austria sent a small contingent of soldiers to Afghanistan that mostly did logistics then some police work. It peaked at something like 100 solders, but was 5-10 soldiers for most of the duration of the war. This was a symbolic contribution, and was also largely based on UN Security Council decisions rather than duties from a military alliance. de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einsatz_

@tootiredtothink @nanoelquant@c.im NATO invoked its mutual defense clause, that's what started the war. The UN and other organizations did not just give up on doing anything in Afghanistan, and rightly so, in my opinion

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