I'm waiting for a #linuxphone that comes with a universal software defined radio peripherial instead of a closed LTE/4G modem and the calling, texting and networking is just realized on the SDR module.

@licho While it's possible, LTE isn't easy to do on SDR - you need full duplex and you'll need a coprocessor for it anyway, or your main AP won't ever sleep and will be under constant real-time pressure. Then you'll need to get it certified if you want to actually use it on public networks. I'm afraid you'd end up with something uncannily similar to a closed LTE/4G modem, just slower and hungrier for power 😜

@dos Thank you for those insights :) You seriously aren't allowed to use a phone with an unlicensed modem? I thought licenses are only required for antennae BTS stuff, and low power "client" devices can be whatever. Like I don't think anyone verifies and licenses every silly IOT device. Or do they? O.o

@licho These devices usually contain a broadband module (not unlike the ones in Librem 5 or PinePhone) that's already certified.

And yes, under most jurisdictions you're not allowed to transmit at all without a license; the bands that you can use for stuff like Wi-Fi etc. (with some restrictions) are explicitly allowed to be used unlicensed, and the frequencies used in cellular networks aren't included there: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISM_radi

@dos oh wow. Thanks for answering my very newbie questions btw.

@dos I suppose that if I actually use it in a way that is indistinguishable from the standard it's fine, nobody would ever know. The problem would appear if I had a bug, experimented with some alternative protocols or tried to sell an unlicensed modem. Because as I understand it's the device that has the license, not the user, right? Like it's fine until you don't spectacularly mess up or try to sell it.

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@licho IANAL; the viability of "it's illegal, but I'll be fine unless I get caught" approach is something you'll have to consider by yourself 😂

@dos Normally you don't need any license to use a phone right? Does that mean that you're not the one doing the transmission but the hardware? How does the responsibility get shifted to the hardware from the person? Is the "manual mode" forbidden?

Also maybe it's possible to have the open source software licensed instead from the hardware module? Like when you're running the mainline library then you're fine?

@dos just thinking out loud. Sorry, I don't expect answer 🙏

@licho The certification is what makes the hardware licensed and it (in principle) involves not letting the device be used in an unlicensed way.

For details you'll have to check the specific laws and regulatory bodies in particular jurisdictions.

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