Do I know anyone here who daily drives #LinuxMobile / #postmarketOS on their main/only phone and would be willing to share their experience?

@luana Using a 5 with (on based distros) since several years. All the common bits (phone calls, SMS, mobile data, GPS positioning, proximity and orientations sensors, leds, haptic feedback, cameras, …) etc work.

The app ecosystem (as mentioned in this thread) is growing and has nice options already. Camera usage has some quirks (userspace / app limitations) but there's 3A (thanks @pavel) so "point and shoot".

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@luana @pavel Battery live is either short or (with suspend) the phone won't yet wake up on e.g. incoming Matrix/XMPP messages (but wakes up fine on e.g. incoming calls / SMS).

We have lots of things to make the user experience nicer on the phosh side and some gaps like e.g. Android Auto, Cellbroadcast support or nice BT integration but things make steady progress.

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@agx
Short battery life is a really sore point. I wonder how Android, being Linux based gets so long battery life
I still haven't dared using it daily because it often get hot. Plus I use Telegram a lot and I need to use Italian's CIE and SPID which support only Android and iOS.
@luana @pavel

@paoloredaelli @agx @luana @pavel afaik with SoCs heavily optimized for phones (but only available in huge numbers), rather than more generic SoCs that are available for producers that only build “few” devices.

@valhalla
I suspect that another cause is having the "modem" outside the main SoC, but I'm no expert
@agx @luana @pavel

@paoloredaelli @luana @pavel At least for the L5 I can say there's lots of potential for improvements (leveraging the M4 core, suspend more, freeze background processes, …). There's limitations compared to the heavily mobile optimized SoCs of today but it should be possible to get into an o.k. state "out of the box".

Regarding CIE (e.g. cie-middleware) so looks like yet another a project for someone to pick up.

@agx
People at #Librem must feel like David against Goliath.
Regarding CIE, as long we can run Android apk, I would be fine and happy …
@luana @pavel

@paoloredaelli @luana @pavel 😃

Waydroid does run apk but I assume you need access to a smart card reader? Haven't tried that.

@agx @luana Yup, camera is a lot of fun. BTW someone should test Megapixels on Librem 5 -- it should work now, and has support for multiple devices.
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