Just saw our minister of ecology bragging about a new law she managed to pass, that creates a new crime, "ecocide". When asked what it means on TV, she says with a huge, wicked smile "this is the sword of justice that is about to fall on those that harm nature, even if they're not conscious of it"
A few days ago, she was warning the French that power shortages were to be expected this winter, but it was all for the climate. Until now France was a net exporter of electricity, wtf happened?

Things are getting out of hand very fast here, I wonder when we will stop pretending we are a market economy, liberal democracy, and just being honest that we have become some kind of communist dictatorship

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@Sosthene The telling blow will be when they outlaw personal ownership of land and business. I'd try to get the hell out of urban centers, if I were you. I already have done so.

@TallTim I probably should move farther away from Paris, but I still have some very old relatives in the area and I don't want to leave them alone in this. I hope things will hold on a few more years so that they will not live to witness this shit.
To be honest I don't think there are that many safe places now anyway, I'm contemplating my chances at fighting instead of fleeing if needed, but that sucks.

@Sosthene I view it as a trade. Its easy to rationalize staying in a losing trade -- all that time you thought about it, all the money you committed to it. The sunk costs are a psychological barrier that prevents you from doing what you should - cut that trade by closing it out and taking the loss.
While I understand the family angle, you can only look out for yourself if they're not willing to follow. Its going to get much worse in cities before it turns around.
Just my personal thesis.

@TallTim that's interesting, but a choice with important implications for people that you love and are responsible for is maybe a little more complicated than closing a losing trade.
But you're right I shouldn't stay here, actually maybe I shouldn't stay in France at all.

@vbhide that's not the first time I hear that, and that's interesting since I would consider most SA countries to NOT be a good place to go now, with socialist governments and violent, segregated society, with the exceptions maybe of Chile, Uruguay and Paraguay.

But I admit that I don't know much about this part of the world, so I'm all ear

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@Sosthene you can have a super socialist govt with no actual control on the ground.. thats my bet with « underdeveloped » countries. A bit like rural china / east europe in the 80s where people basically did what they wanted anyway

@Sosthene the choice is between eu techno full control socialism and 19th century socialist govts. Also, id not trust any political system to be properly isolated from socialism anyway, except ofc complete anarchies like afghanistan / somalia.

@vbhide ok I see, move to a place where government is a bunch of thieves, but at least if you pay the pizzo and don't mess around they won't bother about you. Makes sense

@vbhide but then wouldn't some east Europe countries be more viable alternatives, or are they too close from both the EU and Russia?

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