:ratlaugh: I keep telling people that you dont want to move to the EU, especially the more western part of the EU
this is why
@theorytoe
Drew: demands more government
Government: fucks over Drew
Drew: RRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :ablobrage:
@newt which is why I don't understand why people think this way.
The government *isn't* going to have your best interest in mind. Why in the world would you want *more* of it. I also find that people that share his political alignment are retarded beyond repair so guess that's the justification I'm looking for?

@theorytoe @newt
> The government *isn't* going to have your best interest in mind.
No one's ever going to have your best interest in mind! But the state is at least legally obliged to — it does not always work like that, it can be corrupt, it can be inefficient (and imposing too much control of course makes everything inefficient), but the though that it's pure evil designed solely to fuck you over is as wrong as expecting them to bend backwards to serve you.

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When someone good at "optimising costs" starts dumping toxic sludge to a lake near your home, you will need someone to be there to stop it because you simply won't cut it alone — even if you persuade your neighbours to take sawed-off shotguns an join you, the "cost-optimiser" will still have better goons than you and the boys.
Of course the owner of that marvelous enterprise might've also taken over the state itself, but it means that something went terribly wrong awhile ago.

@theorytoe @newt
Neither eliminating the state, nor making it all-powerful will solve this, and of course the "good guys" taking over doesn't solve it either because even the best tend to become the worst autocrats when left unchecked — checks and balances everywhere. Somewhere hanging in the fragile balance the semblance of peaceful and quiet life exists.

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