Just had a crash course in using wine tonight (ie separate wine prefixes, dxvk, winecfg, etc..)

@charlie_root Did you know that Microsoft supports a custom extension to C's main method that adds an extra argument that holds commandline arguments? Apparently wine doesn't.

@Zergling_man

I'm not a programmer so I wouldn't know that. I'm just trying to follow these guides for setting up yabridge just right because I'm still getting glitches with Serum, and my brainworx plugins which had to have their own separate wineprefix. I'm also doing some performance tuning to get CPU usage down on the plugins.

@charlie_root Well, if you ever get mysterious launch crashes and nobody else seems to have encountered it, try using proton, because proton knows about that extension.

@Zergling_man

Thanks for the info, the yabridge guide says to use wine-staging from the winehq repos so I'm trying to stick with the dev's instructions.

@charlie_root Fair enough. I'm not sure if wine-staging is that far ahead of stable anymore; so maybe that specific detail isn't necessary (when was it written?), but yes, reasonable to try it first, and if it works, then you can consider trying variations.

@Zergling_man

The README.md was updated last month

https://github.com/robbert-vdh/yabridge

@charlie_root Fair enough.

@Zergling_man

Fuck I have to downgrade wine and hold, new update just wrecked everything. NGL going back to Windows is a devil on my shoulder I'm doing what everyone has warned me about and spending more time fixing shit than actually making music....

@Zergling_man

Yeah that worked and saved my ass. Wine is kind of bullshit ngl...

@charlie_root It's the expected result of playing whackamole with a multibillion dollar company that hates you.

@Zergling_man

Momma didn't raise a quitter but if these problems persist I'm gonna have to go back to W11 because I paid money for some of these plugins and I'm renting to own Serum. I love using Linux otherwise, its super fast and I'm not being bombarded with random Microsoft bullshit.

@charlie_root Except when you choose to be.

@Zergling_man

You have to know when to pull out sometimes. I have 2 boys, my pull out game is weak bruh...

@Zergling_man

Geez just going back in wine-staging versions is night and day, this shit is running good again. I guess the trick is finding a good wine version and holding the package so it doesn't update.

@charlie_root I need to try this with Sacred at some point, apparently multiplayer worked fine on older versions but now it's an instant crash when opening any mp menu.
I am thinking what I should do, however, is learn how to replace dlls with stubs for wine, and see if that fixes it, because I'm reasonably sure I know which one is causing it.

@Zergling_man

It probably is, I experienced it firsthand tonight, was a learning sesh for sure 🍻