@kaia how much of netherlands would be underwater if this happened
@eal @kaia preferably, all of it.

Just the other day I discussed with lads that it wouldn't even take a huge amount of explosives to blow up Dutch dikes and put most of the Netherlands north and west of Utrecht under water. Just like God intended.

@newt @kaia @eal Why so hateful towards the Netherlands? It's still one of the better places to be.

@newt @kaia @eal Yeah, slightly higher than even Germany. However they actually seem to do shit with it mostly properly (not talking about current right-wingers), the infrastructure is good etc.
That's better than, for example, in countries with lower taxes but absolute garbage living conditions like the US. Or, well, Germany with high taxes and 20th-century infrastructure rotting away.

@Natanox @kaia @eal the Netherlands have abhorrent living conditions. Living space per person is less than great, taxes are enormous, property is expensive as hell. No wonder the Dutch fail to reproduce at a sustainable rate.

@newt @kaia @eal I have a strong suspicion that's not the sole reason for expensive property, given it's that way almost anywhere including countries with little to no regulation or taxes.

Also please, I'm from Germany, sharing a too-tiny apartment with a friend so she ain't on the street, living off of too little money that's doomed to be reduced or cut in the future because fuck the poor I guess, with rotting public transport. Tell me more about how awful your country is. 🍿

@Natanox @kaia @eal I'm blessed to have avoided being born either Dutch or German. I lived in the Netherlands briefly though.

Currently I live in a much better place, having an almost 80sqm place to myself and myself only while paying a lot less taxes than I would in the Netherlands.

The principle of supply and demand in the presence of taxes and government regulation (which is effectively another form of tax) is very simple: if you tax something, you get less of it. The reason you get so little money is because most of it is taken away by your government in the form of taxes, either direct (income taxes, VAT) or indirect (fuel tariffs, import tariffs, various licences and certifications, etc). If you want to have more money, tax evasion is a skill that can be learned.
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> having an almost 80sqm place to myself and myself only while paying a lot less taxes than I would in the Netherlands
Hey, you can't call squatting on someone's property and evading taxes "better living conditions" just like that! 😏

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@m0xee @kaia @Natanox @eal actually, this can be done in the Netherlands. They have a law against evicting squatters somehow. Totally stupid, but it works.
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