In all seriousness, when compared to many women I talked to in the past months, most of you seem like well-adjusted and reasonable people and totally not unhinged autistic schizoids.

Just the other day I witnessed a girl having a slight meltdown over the fact that she isn't allowed to have an abortion in Poland. While I understand the body autonomy sentiment, she seemed to take this waaaaay more personally than she should because... she's a lesbian.
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@newt
> most of you seem like well-adjusted and reasonable people
Hard to accept (for me personally) fact that I've read in a book like… 15 years ago: "normal" people aren't exactly normal 😩
> she isn't allowed to have an abortion in Poland
Was it introduced by PiS when they came to power? All in all, I think in Poland the collision between the Left and the Right still went better than in most European states — and much better than in US!

@newt
And bodily autonomy is of course still worth fighting for — this shit ain't right in US, in Russia and in Poland too — first and foremost because it doesn't work: I've seen the birthrate grow rapidly in post-Soviet Russia with improving economic conditions and in USSR the number of abortions was catastrophic when no health insurance covered that.
…but in a more practical sense, can't she just go and do it in Slovenia? 🤔

@newt @m0xee she can still feel a way about it. Lesbians don't center their lives around men and can still recognize that their straight counterparts are being denied healthcare services.
@teratology @m0xee
>Dudes don't center their lives around pussies and can still recognize that their female counterparts are being denied healthcare services.

Sounds about the same, I guess.
@newt @m0xee well yeah but also being a lesbian only means they don't sleep or have relationships with men. Victims of rape may still require services. Lesbians are going to feel differently than the average Nigel because they go through the same experience as women. Lesbians and trans men are also less likely to see a gynocologist which is why they have higher rates of cervical cancer too.

@newt
FFS, man are you medieval? We have IVF now!
Though in this case she probably wouldn't want an abortion 🤔
Lesbians still get raped… She would probably go for Postinor in this case though — doesn't matter, it's her choice to have an opion on the subject and I think it still matters more than the opinion of men who just want women to get pregnant and give zero fucks about how they are supposed to raise the child.

@newt
> give zero fucks about how they are supposed to raise the child
I have to admit though that Poland isn't the worst when it comes to child welfare — so at least it's not 100% pure unadulterated hypocrisy as it is in Russia where all social support programmes for young mothers were cut, but they've doubled down on attempting to convince everyone that women simply have to do it 🤦

@m0xee it's not her opinion that I find interesting. It's the hysterical meltdown.

oh btw, another thing I find hilarious is that the very notion that a woman can be a single mother without also being a widow is... one of the major accomplishments of the feminist movement in the 20th century. Before that, women couldn't divorce and had literally no rights to their children. And a child born outside of marriage would be a great shame, so this was avoided like hell.

@newt
This indeed could've been a mistake — I mean it might not be obvious and it doesn't look that bad on paper, but I see the result of decades of this — children being raised by single mothers, in Russia quite clearly — it ain't pretty.

@newt
> It's the hysterical meltdown.
And I don't think I have to tell you this: people nowadays are just emotionally unstable in general — it's not limited to lesbians, single mothers, women… It's everywhere!
You mostly interact with young women — that's the group in which you encounter it the most, that's why for you it's the most graphic.
But damn… Even here on Fedi we see conservative US-ian men who see existential threat in things that seemingly do not affect their lives in any way at all🤭

@m0xee @newt Yes, being a lesbian doesn't mean she is immune to male attention or to being raped. There are men that think they can fix lesbians, that having sex with them will cure them of being lesbians. There is lesbian porn too. It is still possible that she needs those services. She may have been raped in her past too. Or young lesbians are now being convinced to have sex with trans women that can still get them pregnant. They are a vulnerable group still.
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