@iska i really have no idea what gemini is supposed to achieve. it's https reinvented using an inflexible and boring document format.

@bonifartius@qoto.org the same thing as uxn - do less with less, and do it worse!

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More like "do as much as you need and without GoogleShit™ 😏
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@m0xee@social.librem.one @bonifartius@qoto.org w-what do you mean I don't need my mouse to turn into a wand that makes cool sparkles? :sad_cat:

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No, I was suggesting that HTTP today was practically taken over by Google and what we mean by it was designed by Google, even HTTP/S basically came out of SPDY:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP/2
"It was derived from the earlier experimental SPDY protocol, originally developed by Google"
It was even criticized for precisely it: "The FreeBSD and Varnish developer Poul-Henning Kamp asserts that the standard was prepared on an unrealistically short schedule, ruling out any basis for the new HTTP/2 other than the SPDY protocol and resulting in other missed opportunities for improvement"
And HTTP/3… Well, I think we all know what kind of animal that is. There is a lot to not like about where HTTP is heading and it's not like Gemini is the only option, e.g. this was posted for comments just a couple of weeks ago: https://molerat.trinket.icu/
The thing I personally like about Gemini is its simplicity — anyone can spend just a couple of hours a already have something working, this Molerat thing looks more like HTTP light — I'm not sure it will ever take off or become even as popular as Gemini is, but if people do it, then there is at least some demand.
> I don't need my mouse to turn into a wand that makes cool sparkles?
Gemtext is a different thing — again, it's not the only thing that can be served over Gemini, and again, I kinda like it for its simplicity — but you know me, I'm a mostly text person, I get that it's not for everyone. Another beauty of simplicity in this regard is that presentation is separate from the content (text in case with Gemtext) — this means you can have your magic wands client-side if you like it on any page, and it won't conflict with anything. I have to do it even to HTML pages now with extensions like Dark Reader because I don't always like the color schemes the websites are using, when presentation doesn't come with content — this problem doesn't even exist.
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