@millihertz Oh my! I still have a couple of old Macs that have Open Firmware and I never realized that the language is Forth actually.
It's really odd that Apple had already been using Open Firmware with PowerPC, but still went with EFI on switching to Intel.
@millihertz Exactly!
What's worse, it wasn't even UEFI-compliant at first! It was a nonstandard implementation in Macs up to 2011 models! That is why only Macs newer than 2012 were up to spec to boot Windows in EFI mode, with earlier models you had to resort to Boot Camp — Apple's BIOS emulation 🫠
@m0xee sadly i've never owned a machine with OpenFirmware. unless someone dies and leaves me a SPARCstation, i don't suppose i ever will now :-(
@m0xee i suspect the conversation went something like
apple: you know, if you could see your way clear to supporting OpenFirmware on your chips, it would rea--
intel: nope
apple: but it works fine for us, and also for the OLPC fo--
intel: NOPE
apple: and there's absolutely no way we could covi--
intel: WE SAID NO. USE UEFI. WE'LL HAVE NONE OF THAT REVERSE POLISH SHITE HERE
apple: ...fine, whatever, it's only a bootloader