@thor No, I think there is demand for their Android-based phones, they are not the top brand they used to be, but nonetheless. And their KaiOS-based phones, which the new 6310 I think is are for low-income contries, people living in developed countries often don't know what's going on there, they might even be popular 🤷

@m0xee @thor Modern Nokia Android phones seem to be just stock Android One, which is a cut-down variant for low-end devices. Unsure if they even manufacture full-fat Android devices.

Nokia does seem to at least provide frequent security updates to their devices, unlike the majority of other Android OEMs, so that's something.

@inference Yeah, now that I look at them, they look weak even for midrange devices. Then again, I don't get "flagship" Android devices. To me they look the same as phones 3 times cheaper. The only difference — the camera, to me it's completely irrelevant, I'd be happy with none. Looks like the progress hit a brick wall.
Resolutions — same, my phone from 2015 had 2560x1440. 120Hz, what for? Batteries got twice larger, but you still charge it every night?🤷
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@inference Another thing I'm amused with — 5G in midrange phones: newer models are often weaker in every aspect, except now you have 5G. What are you downloading there, watching 4k videos on that huge 6" screen?
At the same time midrange phones often don't have things like wireless charging — why is that a premium feature? It's not nuclear fission, it's just a coil and a tiny controller 🤔
At least now we can't use wired headphones — progress 🤣
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@m0xee @thor

> At least now we can't use wired headphones

We can. Android supports USB-C audio, and USB-C headphones exist.