@dushman Makes it impossible for hackers to see the websites you visit (because HTTPS has never existed).
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Also when it comes to data collection you just shift your trust from your ISP to the VPN company
@dushman I trust my ISP more than a VPN company I saw in an ad. It doesn't matter if their server software is open source or proprietary; you can't see if they're actually running that code or not, without access to their servers, which you aren't getting unless you work there.

VPNs are overrated.

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If you live in a country like Russia or China, ISP is the least trustworthy entity. VPN company is at least in some developed country's jurisdiction and has zero obvious incentive to do DPI of all your traffic and report your actions directly to the KGB. They might not even know who you are. I can't say for Nord as I hate them, but for other reasons. With Proton you can pay in cash or these Beethoven thingies.
VPNs are still good in certain cases.
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If I had to I'd use mullvad or set up my own on a vps that doesn't require personal info

@dushman
Mullvad's also good, one of the best!
I chose Proton because I was using their free plan and when they had a sale I just went with them. They have some unique features like this one: protonvpn.com/blog/stealth-vpn
I haven't inspected it properly yet, but it doesn't look like one of the "military grade" claims ๐Ÿ˜…
I do live in Russia, here most popular VPN services are blocked, but this Stealth protocol seems to work. Wireguard TCP also seems to work, WG UDP and OpenVPN are filtered.
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@m0xee @inference
> popular VPN services are blocked

If that's the case then setting up your own will probably be the most reliable way in the long run
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It does have pros and cons: you can't just switch to another exit node, unless you have a handful of VPSes. Also the address range of your VPS is less likely to get blocked/filtered, but if it does โ€” you're in trouble.
Well, it's best to get out of here anyway instead of playing these games ๐Ÿ˜…
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