All this self-host techie discourse sounds, to me, a bit like a self-sufficiency dystopia. If we were discussing how bad public transportation is, and someone replied "just transport yourself", most of us would say "that's not it". But when we discuss wanting to get out of large American tech or of nazi-sympathyzing companies, the solution can't be "just host your services yourself". Having to do everything yourself is not my idea of a functioning society.

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@annasdtc For me, the way forward is not for everyone to self-host his email, etc. It's that the provider of these services need to stop being large companies, but instead of cooperatives whose workers or executive groups comes from circles you share values with. Something like e.g having your email hosted by a sysadmin co-op that hosting services only to residents of a city, for exemple, I don't know ... Same applies to open source software: it gets forked all the time, so you keep using the fork maintained by the university/coop/whatever you trust.

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@ered @annasdtc Yes. I always like to compare it to the punk DIY ethos. Not all punk bands start their own record labels, but most are using labels started by other punks for their music distribution. Local and social are great places to start looking for recommendations.

There is also semi-self hosting. e.g., many web host services provide for NextCloud installs. You aren't in charge of the server, but you are controlling your cloud.

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